Philosophy Book Club
This is where I post comments about the book I'm reading. If you want to dicuss this book, let's meet for dinner. Eh?
Monday, April 30, 2012
A book by Leonard and Deepak
This book is a debate between Deepak Chopra and Leonard Mlodinow. It isn't a line by line debate. They take turns writing chapters. So you could read just what Leonard wrote if you wanted.
In chapter one, Deepak seems to be arguing in favor of free will. Also in chapter one, Deepak seems to take the position that we don't know it all so we should remain open. Certainly he isn't claiming that unproven hypotheses are true. His example: the elephant story.
Leonard writes the next chapter. Both are addressing the question: What is reality? I find myself agreeing with both of them at times. Leonard is addressing the awesomeness of what our senses can experience.
Leonard states: "Deepak's belief that the universe is purposeful ...". On April 29th, we were talking about Marx and Hegel and their histrionics as we watched the Popper DVD. I think they were saying that history has a purpose. Popper disagreed. I must admit that Deepak saying that the universe has a purpose seems a little far fetched to me. I think I am with the existentialists: humans make their own purpose.
Below quote is from this link :
"Suppose we divide theories of the meaning of human life into the exogenous and the endogenous. According to the exogenous theories, existential meaning derives from a source external to the agent, whereas on endogenous theories, meaning and purpose are posited or projected by the agent. "
I totally agree with this statement that Leonard makes: "one must be careful when discussing scientific issues not to use terms loosely."
I liked this quote by Richard Feynman: "the first principle is that you must not fool yourself--and you are the easiest to fool."
I liked this statement by Leonard: "It is easy to convince oneself of dubious ideas if the arguments one uses to support those ideas are built around words with wrong, vague, or multiple meanings."
I wonder if religious people think that Deepak is doing a good job defending their worldview. He talks about the perfection of God; and the omniscient, omnipresent , omnipotent God. And then he says "the defeat of perfectionism seems totally justified...Spirituality therefore cannot get back into the game on religious terms. It has to add something new"
On page 57 Leonard says "A quick way to turn science into science fiction is to play with the meaning of its terms"
To be continued
Monday, February 27, 2012
Justice: What is the Right Thing to Do?
Here are some quotes from the book with references to the Kindle location:
Page 7 ( loc 141) Much public support for price-gouging laws comes from something more visceral than welfare or freedom ... getting things they don't deserve. Outrage of this kind is anger at injustice
Page 8 (loc 161) It is also about virtue--about cultivating the attitudes and dispositions, the qualities of character, on which a good society depends ... is it dangerous to impose judgments about virtue through law?
Page 9 (loc 176) should law be neutral toward competing conceptions of virtue
Page 15 (loc 299) The American public's real objection to the bonuses--and the bailout--is not that they reward greed but that they rewarded failure
Page 19 (loc 359) To ask whether a society is just is to ask how it distributes things we prize--income and wealth, duties and rights, powers and opportunities, offices and honors.
to be continued
He is explaining Kant's categorical imperatives. To be a categorical imperative, it must meet three criteria:
1. Universal. In other words, I wouldn't object to someone else doing it to me
2. Humanity should not be treated merely as a means to an end
3.Treat people as rational beings worthy of respect
Friday, February 17, 2012
Braintrust What Neuroscience Tells Us about Morality
Page 2 (loc 87) So what is it to be fair?
Page 2 (loc 93) It did seem likely that Aristotle, Hume, and Darwin were right: we are social by nature
Page 3 (loc 99) By drawing on ... we can now meaningful approach the question of where values come from.
Page 3 (loc 103) My aim here is to explain what is probably true about our social nature, and what that involves in terms of the neural platform
Page 4 (loc 125) dunce's error of going from an is to an ought, from facts to values
Page 5 (loc 141) dimwitted inferences between descriptions and prescriptions
Page 6 (loc 153) finding good solutions to social problems often requires much wisdom, goodwill, negotiation, historical knowledge, and intelligence
Page 6 (loc 161)the conclusion must deductively follow from the premises with no mere probability ... Assuming the premises are true, the conclusion must be true
Page 9 (loc 216) Values are, according to this hypothesis, more fundamental than rules.
Page 18 (loc 351) learning involves structural changes in the brain
Page 20 (loc 400) cultural evolution can happen much faster than biological evolution
Page 59 (loc 1018) Once certain practices become the norm, once they are seen to bring benefits and to circumvent troubles, once they are reinforced by social approval and disapproval, they do of course seem to reflect the only right way for things to be
Page 60 (loc 1036) Humans are learners extraordinaire, and imitators plus extraordinaire
Page 60- [lots of stuff about the benefits of touch]
Page 61 (loc 1065) Some humans are highly group directed and reputation sensitive, while others live contentedly on the fringe
Page 62 (loc 1069) dark side to sociality
Page 64 (loc 1093) market integration.. [what % of your food do you get directly from your own efforts]
Page 65 (loc 1111) Market integrated individuals are more likely to show trust in dealings with strangers than are hunter-gatherers
Page 68 (loc 1161) [she defines cooperation as she plans to use it ]
Page 71 (loc 1212) The main hypothesis of this book, that morality originates in the neurobiology of attachment and bonding ...
Page 72 onward [effect of OXT on cooperation ]
Page 81 (loc 1403) the problem of free-riding ... attenuated ... when the group is small
Page 82 (loc 1424) in the non-punishment condition ... contributions ... decreased ...
Page 83 (loc 1441) When the option of punishment became available, contributions immediately jumped and continued to increase
Page 84 (loc 1456) These studies suggest that anger is a powerful driver of canonical moral behavior, namely, the punishing of wrongdoers.
Page 89 (loc 1538) temperamentally, are Homo sapiens more like chimps or bonobos
page 105 (loc 1813) innateness sometimes impedes clarity
page 106 (loc 1833) vulnerability to propaganda, the willingness to go to war on a tide of jingoism, the nontrivial vairability in moral customs....
Page 111 (loc 1919) On these topics, instant intuitions may give answers that backfire, and fair-minded disagreement can persist for decades
page 114 (loc 1971) what behavioral traits were selected for in human evolution cannot be solved by a vivid imagination
page 119 (loc 2054) With greater predictive capacities come greater opportunities to manipulate, in both the social and physical domains
page 130 (loc 2239) From the persepective of evolution, learning has clear advantages in efficiency and flexibility over having it built in.
page 166 (loc 2840) Evaluation, as discussed, is rooted in the emotions and passions that are endemic to human nature, and in the social habits acquired through childhood.
page 167 (loc 2860) a great Souter quote
page 170 to page 172 --discusses the problems with the golden rule
page 192 (loc 3305) As argued in earlier chapters, given normal neural networks, the pain from being shunned and the pleasure of belonging, along with imitation of those we admire, give rise to powerful intuitions about the absolute rightness and wrongness of classes of behavior
page 203 (loc 3498) Hume realized that trust will not exist unless there is some sort of enforcement of the rules of the game
Monday, January 30, 2012
Evolution of Morality by Richard Joyce
Page 1 (loc 37) This book attempts to accomplish two tasks. The first is to address the question "Is human morality innate?"
Page 5 (loc 87) Sociobiology focuses on innate behavior, whereas evolutionary psychology focuses on the psychological mechanisms
Page 6(loc 106) human brain is an organ designed to deal with environmental variation par excellence, and that open-ended plasticity is a human forte
Page 8 (loc 144). So I think Stephen Jay Gould was dead wrong when he said "If we are programmed to be what we are, then those traits are ineluctable ...". Unless by programmed Gould just means something that cannot be changed ...
Page 13 (loc 203) I will outline several means by which helpful, cooperative traits may evolve.
Page 14 (loc 209) [he defines altruism as he intends to use the word]
Page 15 (loc 216) Some humans doubt whether any human actions are altruistic ...
Page 15 (loc 239) to confuse a person with her genes is as silly as confusing her with her lungs
Page 18 (loc 284) I am not claiming that a person's reasons must always be apparent to her, all I am saying is that they are not all ultimately concerned with genetic replication
Page 31 (loc 479) By introducing reputation into our understanding, we move away from standard reciprocal exchanges to what has been called "indirect reciprocity"
Page 37 (loc 569) Groups containing helpers will outperform groups containing fewer or no helpers
Page 48 (loc 731) All the empirical evidence shows that humans are often motivated by genuine regard for others
Page 50 (loc 758) Kant: that actions motivated by pro social emotions cannot be morally admirable
Page 51 (loc 768) ... moral sentiments ... prosocial emotions
Page 56 (loc 853) Yet this observation doesn't undermine the claim that there is a linguistic convention according to which "slut" expresses contempt.
Page 58 (loc 886) where does the practical clout of morality come from?
Page 62 (loc 948) I must confess to having a lot of sympathy with the Kantian intuition that there is some kind of extra authority ... in which we imbue our moral claims
Page 65 (loc 999) Morality seems to be designed to serve society
Page 68 (loc 1041) moral equilibrium
Page 70 (loc1066) An incapacity to feel guilt amounts to the absence of an internal self punishment-something we think as an important internal mechanism
Page 101 (loc 1514) it is clear that self regulation is a vital feature of our moral lives
Page 111 (loc 1650) the distinctive value of imperatives imbued with practical clout is that they silence further calculation
Page 119 ( loc 1765)establishes a reputation
Page 125 (1862) it manipulated emotional centers
Page 130 (loc 1937) highly hypnotizable participants were given post-hypnotic suggestions to feel a pang of disgust whenever they read an arbitrary word .... this is evidence that a great deal of the time it is our emotions that are driving our moral judgments ... Haidt's studies have repeatedly shown that people are frequently largely unaware of what is prompting their moral evaluations
page 139 (loc 2083) "getting it" requires a certain kind of brain
Page 144 (loc 2154) descriptive evolutionary ethics ... Prescriptive evolutionary ethics
Page 168 (loc2516) The bedrock of his argument ... the primary locus of moral evaluation is not action but rather a person's character.
Page 169 (loc 2520) we should be able to discover what it takes to be a good human being by ascertaining the human function (the ergon)
Page 170 (loc 2547) human flourishing
Page 177 (loc 2645) implausible theory that allows ... moral disputes ... to be settled by digging in African soil
Page 180 (loc 2666) no human trait is hard- wired in the sense of developing inevitably
Page 200 (loc 2976) If one person asserts that something is a non-negotiable feature of some concept and another person denies this, where should they take their dispute?
Page 205 (loc 3060) contingency should not be confused with flimsiness
Page 208 (loc 3107) Thus, a value system lacking practical clout couldnot do effectively play the social roles to which we put morality
Page 212 ( loc 3153) ... true belief has immense survival value ... Wholly false beliefs will not have survival value in the long run ... So if any innate beliefs have arisen through natural selection, we should expect them to be at least approximately true
Page 213 (loc 213) let us interpret my view as holding that moral beliefs are innate. (In fact I would not assert this without much qualification )
Page 221 (loc 3275) [cool Huxley quote]
Page 223 (loc 3300) [definition of agnostic ]
Page 227 (loc 3360) No one denies that emotions affect motivations ... Modern psychological experiments have supported his view. Smiling voluntarily really does affect one's emotions in a positive way. ... human motivation is a much more peculiar affair than we usually think ... Such thought and emotions may become habitual or even aspects of character
Saturday, January 7, 2012
Moral skepticism
1. The Evolution of Morality by Richard Joyce
2. Ethics: Inventing Right and Wrong by J. Mackie
3. Braintrust : What Neuroscience Tells Us about Morality by Pat Churchland
I will post my notes about the books here. I am reading Mackie's book first. He states that moral subjectivism is similar to moral skepticism. For now, I take that to mean that morals can vary with the culture.
He also uses terms: first order and second order. First order is some moral statement. Second order is our examination of that moral statement. I think second order would include the examination of the effect on society if everyone followed the rule outlined in the moral statement.
Take heed of his warning in the introduction: chapter one maybe a hard read for non-philosophy majors. He said scan it and be patient, the other chapters will expound on the concepts.
Quote loc 391: "given any sufficiently determinate standards, it will be an objective issue"
But that is the problem, who gets to determine the standards? Plus those standards don't guarantee a particular outcome.
Quote loc 393: "the subjectivist about values, then, is not denying that there can be objective evaluations relative to standards ... "
He then goes on to talk about the distinction between justice and injustice. And I think his point is similar to Socrates' point: Socrates can answer for specific instances with specific standards BUT can not define justice. Here is a quote from Wikipedia: In response to the two views of injustice and justice presented by Glaucon and Adeimantus, Socrates claims incompetence, but feels it would be impious to leave justice in such doubt. Thus the Republic sets out to define justice
Mackie then discusses the difference between Kant's categorical imperative and Kant's hypothetical imperative. He offers this example of the hypothetical imperative: If you want to be trusted in the future, then you should keep your promises. The author (Mackie) goes on to deny that there are ANY categorical imperatives for moral judgements. I wonder if Mackie will discuss character building BUT maybe (for him) that will still fall under hypothetical imperative.
Loc 671: We therefore want our moral judgements to be authoritative for other agents
Loc 595: moral intuition ... Indeed easy to point out its implausibilities
Loc 790: They concluded that 'good' in ethics has a primarily non-descriptive ...meaning
Loc 797: I admit that such and such is conducive to pleasure, but is it good?
Loc 859: where there is a functional noun about, commendable qualities are those that enable the thing to perform its function
That is his definition of good. Loc 883 has a more succinct definition
Loc 1028: 'ought' is a relatively weak modal auxiliary. Anyone who really means business uses 'must' or 'shall'
Loc 1055-when we put in enough factual conditions....the ought conclusion follows
Loc 1156-the adopting of such fragments of language is not a neutral matter
Loc 1172-the distinction between the factual and the evaluative ... has to be achieved by analysis
Loc 1190-epistemically ought statements refer to what are or were reasons for expecting such-and-such outcome
Loc 1273-do the desires and especially the sufferings of other people,if known to me, constitute a reason for me to do something
Loc 1276-there would be a stronger reason if the people were closer to me
Loc 1279-a moral tradition demands that I show some concern for the well being of others
Loc 1316- [the author talks a lot about promising. I think because it is such a good example]
Loc 1342-universalizability would be trivial and useless, therefor, if we could not rule out ...the many differences as irrelevant
Loc 1344- it may be that what is wrong for you may be right for me. ... but if it is, this can only be because there is some qualitative difference between you and me ...
Loc 1386 [talks about first order and second order]
Loc 1495-what one is trying to do is to look at things, both from one's own and from the other's point of view, and to discover action guiding principles
Loc 1542-the notion of choosing principles from behind a veil of ignorance [which is Rawl's suggestion] ... is a less adequate guarantee of fairness than that of seeking compromise
Loc 1698- morality is a species of evaluation ...there must be something that is supposed to bring about
Loc 1714-detached from its mythological framework, Protagora's thesis is plain : a moral sense,law, and justice are needed to enable men to live together in communities large enough to compete with wild beasts
Loc 1717-but Hobbes is far more explicit about the solution than Protagora
Loc 1750- But, Hume insists, a single act of justice, considered on its own, may do more harm than good
Loc 1758- one cannot afford to obey these rules unless some guarantee that others will do so too
Loc 1797- in moral thinking we have to weigh reasons, not simply follow rules
Loc 1920- technological advances of many kinds have put greatly increased powers into the hands of some people and some organizations
Loc 1975-act utilitarianism
Loc 1983- this proposal has several obvious merits,. It seems reasonable that morality ... should have something to do with happiness
Loc 1986 moral principles should be fair
Loc 2003 Is it really possible to measure pleasure and pain?
Loc 2057 Act utilitarian is by no means the only moral theory that displays this extreme of impracticality
Loc 2080 To identify morality with something that certainly will not be followed is a sure way of bringing it into contempt
Loc 2578 the difference between a means, a side effect or unintended consequence
Loc 2708 it is the main function of any economic system to produce cooperation
loc 2753 Our rejection of objective values carries with it the denial that there are any self-subsistent rights
loc 2771 in practice rights have to be determined by a ploitico-lega process
loc 2780 Locke's basic principle is that everyone has an exclusive right to his ....own labour
loc 2836 men's real goals are irresolvably diverse
loc 2843 Does the right of a nation ... include the right to forbid or to limit immigration
loc 2850 ..claims to absolute rights is disastrous ....
loc 2856 recognize their conflicting prima facie rights as such and to look for a solution which can be seen as a reasonable compromise between these prima facie rights
loc 2889 What we need, therefore, is not a general defence of liberty, but adjudication between particular rival claims to freedom
Loc 2936 it is now utterly impossible for human nature to go on subsisting unless there are some limits to aggression
Loc 2987 there is merit in Aristotle 's formal sketch taken simply as such. The good life will consist in activities that manifest and realize developed dispositions for choice
Loc 3021 I have argued that egoism is not immoral, but forms a considerable part of any viable moral system
Loc 3030 it is necessary for the well being of people in general that they should act to some extent in ways that they cannot see as egoistically prudent
...Plato ...the just man is happy because his soul is harmoniously ordered
Loc 3073 my approach takes general human well being as the foundation of morality
Loc 3119 what is not fair is that people would take risks with the lives of others who do not and would not willingly make that choice
Loc 3297 a system of morality ... modifying an agent's view of possible actions
Loc 3321 can someone be held responsible not only for inadvertent negligence but also for unforeseen results
Loc 3346 the psychopath stands outside the system of control
Loc 3585 The rationality of morality consists in the fact, brought out by Protagoras and Hobbes and Hume and Warnick, that men need moral rules and principles and dispositions if they are to live together and flourish in communities ... and evolution...
Loc 3678 divergent moralities within the same society
Loc 3693 experience shows that such corruption is the usual result of an attempt to enforce a morality ... whose support is insincere
Loc 3723 prisoner's dilemma
Loc 3725 international applications
Loc3732 In particular, serious negotiation is easier if the opposing parties not only understand each other's claims but appreciate the motives and the moral basis on which they rest
Great book!
Thursday, October 27, 2011
Great article
Great article. I follow this guy's blog. Nice summary of Spinoza, eh?
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On a Roller Coaster
by Scott Erb
In our honors course we discussed a few intriguing minds over the last week. Baruch (Benedict) Spinoza and Blaise Pascal were to of the most fascinating, each dealing with the power of the unleashing of human reason in the 1600s alongside the loss of authority of the Roman Catholic Church.
Spinoza (1632-77) was a determinist and philosophical monist, who died when he was only 45. Pascal (1623 - 1662) was a fideist and Jansenist who gave up his amazing scientific career at a young age to devout himself to religion. He died when he was only 39. They both lost their mothers when they were young, both lived in ill health, both were on the margins of their religion (Spinoza rejected by the Jewish community while Pascal's Jansenism ultimately branded heretical by the Pope).
Though each were responding to the Meditations of Rene Descartes, they went in different directions. Spinoza maintained a strong rationalism, even while rejecting Descartes dualism of mind and spirit. Pascal was the ultimate skeptic, noting that even contradiction did not prove something untrue (nor did lack of contradiction indicate truth).
Pascal without a doubt had the more impressive intellect. His early scientific discoveries are amazing. He is said to have invented the first computer, pioneered work in probability (he lived in a community where gambling was very popular), and once when we had an energy audit at our house the auditor measured air pressure in "Pascals" -- a remnant from his early work on barometrics. There is even a computer language named in his honor.
Ultimately he sacrificed his scientific career to use his intellect to use reason to destroy reason. He was one of the first who understood that reason itself cannot be a path to truth and that ultimately it could undercut any argument. He seemed to sense that Christianity's embrace of reason might come to haunt it later. He took Descartes skepticism but, while Descartes escaped it through his "first principle" (cogito ergo sum - I think therefore I am), Pascal was unconvinced. Overwhelmed by the absurdity of life, the superstition and pettiness of human nature, he decided that the only way to truth was through the heart.
Consider his rejection of the principle of contradiction. That seems straight forward, if two things are in contradiction one of the two cannot be true. I cannot be both human and not-human. But Pascal's skepticism extended to even the observations and logic that allows such linguistic constructions to be built. You can never know through reason, reason devours itself. But, he argued, through God's grace you can know in your heart God's love, and that will give one the perspective and understanding to live in an absurd world. The heart has reasons that reason cannot understand. Fideism was faith, and faith alone, with a commitment to an Augustinian notion of grace.
Spinoza, on the other hand, rejected the notion that there was anything different about mind/spirit and body, and saw reality as being all the same stuff, positing a deterministic world decades before Newton's physics provided the clockwork universe (though keeping with Descartes' view on universal laws.) Perhaps an atheist or maybe a pantheist, Spinoza saw of all reality reflecting God's will unfolding by necessity in a path already perfect and predetermined. Free will is an illusion; reality is.
Good and evil become relative for Spinoza, something is only good or bad relative to your experience of it; as part of the whole neither good nor evil exist, all is perfection. Humans can drive themselves crazy worrying about what will happen next, what their life has in store, or fretting over some mistake or threat. But all of that is pointless, nothing can be changed. Perhaps the only thing one can do is train oneself not to be shaken or disquieted by how reality is unfolding; one must just accept it with the knowledge that it is as it must be.
It strikes me that the two very different philosophies have one thing in common: they want to make the ride of life more bearable. For each, life is like a roller coaster. For Spinoza it's a ride that you cannot alter. After you're strapped in and the roller coaster starts going up the first hill, there is no way you can change your experience. Every curve, dip and loop is pre-determined, you cannot stand, move or do anything until the ride stops. What you can do is enjoy the ride, scream, be scared, hate the ride, be mad, or whatever -- all that you control is how you respond. For Spinoza life is like that, to experience life to the fullest one must accept it is as it must be.
Pascal sees the absurdity of human existence in the tumultuous 1600s, as well as the roller coaster ride of reason. Reason can prove anything, given the right assumption and definition. Yet it can destroy any proposition, no truth claim can be made in the abstract through reason; all empirical claims can be questioned. Skepticism may annoy philosophers, but it's powerful, especially if one extends it to being skeptical of even skepticism itself!
So absurd, humans using this tool "reason" to try to figure life out, yearning for the "right answer," or a "first principle" upon which to build some edifice of knowledge. Doomed to fail or be locked in delusion, the absurdity of the whole effort overwhelms Pascal who decided that faith alone is the key. God's grace saves us from this trap, the heart can understand clearly what the head cannot comprehend. Faith provides meaning where reason is helpless.
It's easy to dismiss these brilliant thinkers now. Quantum mechanics throws Spinoza's determinism for a loop (though it creates a capacity for free will to exist within Spinoza's framework -- we may be playing out one path in a pre-determined set of possible paths). Pascal's faith in God can be seen as seeking emotional solace. Moreover Pascal's famous wager (a metaphor used because of all the gamblers of his era) is thrown a curve by the existence of many potential Gods to believe in.
Yet the roller coaster ride is still here. Pascal criticized the way people lived through distractions, afraid of asking the question "who am I" and "why am I here." He certainly would recognize the same tendency in our modern hectic consumer society where distraction is a way of life. Looking beyond the distractions and asking those questions leads many to the same kind of solution Pascal embraced: faith. It may not always be Christian faith, but its a belief in the heart that life matters.
It's a shame that we so rarely take the time to think about our intellectual history and how philosophers and thinkers handled the changes that have been sweeping western civilization for a millennium, and which now confront other cultures and peoples. Understanding Pascal and Spinoza -- and others -- gives us insight on core dilemmas we still face, and how people worked through them in the past. It won't answer the timeless questions, but will help us get insight into various ways the nature of our world can be understood. It is enriching and enlightening.
Scott Erb | October 27, 2011 at 3:02 am | Categories: Christianity, History, Philosophy, Religion | URL: http://wp.me/pft5G-1oV
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